In my last play session, we noted that the players probably need to hire torchbearers or similar companions. I took a look at the rules in 5e and some other games before deciding what to do, and ended up merging them into a simple system that I hope will work for us.
D&D Fifth Edition
The hiring rules in 5e left me feeling really underwhelmed. And after I compared them with the rules in a number of other games, I felt even more underwhelmed. “Skilled” cost 2 gold pieces per day, and “unskilled” cost 2 silver pieces per day. I’d increase that significantly for NPCs asked to go into harm’s way, like torchbearers in a dungeon. Note that this only means hired workers, not “retainers” or “low-level followers”. In those cases, they get a share of treasure and experience points. They make good replacement characters when a regular player character dies, too.
Page 93 of the Dungeon Master’s Guide provides a nice loyalty system tied to the Charisma score of the party. The NPC’s Loyalty score starts at half of the highest Charisma in the party, with that Charisma being the maximum. When you help them achieve a bond or do something really nice for them, the loyalty increases by 1d4. A corresponding decrease of 1d4 occurs when the party members do something that runs against the NPC’s alignment or bond, or 2d4 if they’re mistreated for selfish reasons. When the loyalty score reaches 0, the disloyal NPC either leaves or undermines the party. If it reaches 10, they will risk their lives for the party members.
Basic Fantasy RPG lists three types of companions. It provides “retainers”, who go into dungeons, participate, and get a share of the rewards. “Specialists” don’t go on adventures but perform other sorts of services (like a sage doing research or a sailors on a character-owned ship). Finally, “mercenaries” typically get hired as units and might provide security at a stronghold or similar. Labyrinth Lord has almost the same setup.
Swords & Wizardry does not have the concept of “retainers”. It has one page for hiring followers of various types, including “Man-at-Arms (Soldiers)” and “Man-at-Arms (Adventuring)”. The latter category probably comes closest to retainers. Another category covers “Torchbearer (or Other Adventuring Non-combatant)”. In this regard, it looks a lot like 5e.
Lamentations of the Flame Princess handles this with its characteristic balance between simplicity in exposition and detail in requirement. In fact, it seems to envision that adventuring parties become “expeditions” with all sorts of followers. For example, once characters acquire strongholds, accountants and similar become really important. For my purposes, the most relevant types include “Guides” who help the party avoid becoming lost, “Henchmen” (retainers), and “Laborers” & “Linkboys” (treasure carriers and torchbearers). All followers also earn a death benefit payable to family or a magistrate if they die during the course of the adventure.
We will have three classes of NPCs for adventuring. Note that I don’t have any campaigns with players ready to run a stronghold or similar, so I don’t have to think about that yet.
- Followers. These correspond to “retainers” in most systems: classed, lower-level characters that get a share of the rewards. Players can create and run them during an adventure if they desire to use them as potential replacement characters if their main characters die. A character needs to reach fifth level before finding a follower, though.
- Mercenaries. These don’t get a share of rewards but only fill specific roles (e.g. they can apply healing kits or other special expertise). The DM runs them but they should never take the spotlight for fear of becoming “DMPCs“. If the PCs want the mercenaries to accompany them into a dungeon or into some other type of battle, they earn 10 gp/day. Otherwise they cost 2 gp/day as for skilled workers in the PHB.
- Attendants. Torchbearers, animal handlers, and so forth earn 2 sp/day just to accompany the party. But if they have to go into a dungeon, they earn a full gold piece per day.
Mercenaries and attendants earn a death benefit payable to their families or the guild. This comes to 100 days of hazard pay, so 1000 gp for mercenaries and 200 gp for attendants. I want the players to view these NPCs as actual characters, not furniture.
Further, the 5e loyalty system applies, but I want to import the morale system from the Mentzer Basic Dungeon Masters Rulebook. When appropriate, the NPC rolls 2d6 against their loyalty score. If the result exceeds their loyalty score, they flee or otherwise stop helping. If the loyalty score reaches 12, then the NPC doesn’t have to roll. But in all cases, if the NPC feels abused, Bad Things may happen.
: I hate the word “hirelings” with a burning passion even more than I hate the term “human resources”.
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I too am looking to do a hireling setup, I also want to do a familiar section for dogs, cats, birds and small monsters. Great post.
Your D&D worlds are going to have universal death insurance policies? Seriously, when exactly did the freelance, work for anyone thugs in your world form some sort of union and hire a bunch of lawyers to draw up the standard contract for all union members?
That’s… incredibly out-of-line with the whole tone and theme.
PC’s families don’t get paid thousands of gold when one of them dies on an adventure they are being hired for by whomever is hiring them.
Yes, life isn’t cheap.. but by that token, life isn’t cheap and there are generally thousands of people who would do whatever the hell job they are asked for if they so much as think they have a decent shot at surviving it if that’s what it’ll take to pay their living cost through the month.
Once I defeat the big bad and I round up his surviving thugs and tell them that they can start working for me now to start making up for their crimes or I can just execute them on the spot so they can’t cause more trouble in the future, somehow I don’t think they are in a position to insist on the universal standard pay wage with 3 weeks paid vacation, a 15-minute break every two hours, a 1 hour unpaid lunch break in the middle of the day, maternity leave, 10 sick days per year, full health and dental insurance and life insurance.
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In this particular campaign, the adventurers work as part of a guild. So yeah, it’s sort of a precursor to unions. Not everything in D&D has to be an uber libertarian utopia and Ayn Rand isn’t my DM.
You play your game how you like, I play mine.
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Reblogged this on Tome and Tomb and commented:
To me this harkens back to the AD&D days. Thankfully.
This is a excellent set up I like it very much. I will be importing something very close into my world now based off this write up. I am not sure if I will be a steep price wise as you. But they will see fees in my world and value the lives of the people that work for them.
I saw from day one with crafting that Retainers and a labor force might come into play in 5E and I was very pleased to see it.
Reblogged this on R.P.G. (Runkle Plays Games) and commented:
Since the moment I read the crafting rules for 5E this very topic has been on my mind. Good write up.